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	<title>Comments on: Terrestrial Time: Tying the Thompson Foam Beetle</title>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://fishfliesandwater.com/2009/09/07/terrestrial-time-tying-the-thompson-foam-beetle/comment-page-1/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim (and any other indicator-pattern-lovin&#039; FF&amp;W readers)&#8212;Your experience is certainly one that has plagued other anglers over the years. A old trick of Al Troth&#039;s that can work well with indicators is to use black combined with some other color, such as red, orange, yellow, green or white. I often use yarn indicators and the black/color set-up is easy to make or buy and does the trick (a beetle, already being black, takes care of the black part). The black/color combo often allows the indicator to be more visible in a wide range of lighting conditions (from silver overcast to bright sun). As you (Jim) discovered, red was the color that really worked in those sunny conditions. You might consider tying a couple flies in another color, as well, just to see how the two compare to your eye in various conditions (see also that dual-hued indicator on the beetle in the photo above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim (and any other indicator-pattern-lovin&#8217; FF&#038;W readers)&mdash;Your experience is certainly one that has plagued other anglers over the years. A old trick of Al Troth&#8217;s that can work well with indicators is to use black combined with some other color, such as red, orange, yellow, green or white. I often use yarn indicators and the black/color set-up is easy to make or buy and does the trick (a beetle, already being black, takes care of the black part). The black/color combo often allows the indicator to be more visible in a wide range of lighting conditions (from silver overcast to bright sun). As you (Jim) discovered, red was the color that really worked in those sunny conditions. You might consider tying a couple flies in another color, as well, just to see how the two compare to your eye in various conditions (see also that dual-hued indicator on the beetle in the photo above).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment about indicators: Yesterday I caught a nice brown on the Clark Fork using an ant pattern with a puff of red yarn as the indictor. I lost the fly (my fault) and switched to the same pattern except it was tied with a white indicator. The sun was at that bad angle and the white indicator was very difficult to see but the red indicator was very visable. I&#039;m in the process of relacing all my ant and beetle patters with red indicators. By the way that is a very good beetle pattern. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment about indicators: Yesterday I caught a nice brown on the Clark Fork using an ant pattern with a puff of red yarn as the indictor. I lost the fly (my fault) and switched to the same pattern except it was tied with a white indicator. The sun was at that bad angle and the white indicator was very difficult to see but the red indicator was very visable. I&#8217;m in the process of relacing all my ant and beetle patters with red indicators. By the way that is a very good beetle pattern. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon&#8212;A tuft of white Z-lon tied in and extending partly over the back of the fly would not only make a good indicator, it could even double as a wing of sorts (further lending to the visual &quot;impression&quot; of the fly). I often carry flying ant patterns that use Z-lon (or similar material) for the wing. They can work surprisingly well during other insect hatches (mayflies, etc.), as well (as I&#039;m sure you know).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon&mdash;A tuft of white Z-lon tied in and extending partly over the back of the fly would not only make a good indicator, it could even double as a wing of sorts (further lending to the visual &#8220;impression&#8221; of the fly). I often carry flying ant patterns that use Z-lon (or similar material) for the wing. They can work surprisingly well during other insect hatches (mayflies, etc.), as well (as I&#8217;m sure you know).</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, thank you Jason for including a pattern with an indicator bigger than a red circle painted on the foam. I think that for the Thompson Foam Beetle it makes no harm to tie in a litle white indicator such a calf tail or maybe something sinthetic as z-lon or similar.
Regards,
SZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, thank you Jason for including a pattern with an indicator bigger than a red circle painted on the foam. I think that for the Thompson Foam Beetle it makes no harm to tie in a litle white indicator such a calf tail or maybe something sinthetic as z-lon or similar.<br />
Regards,<br />
SZ</p>
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